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Memphis Airport May Close Terminals

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(Memphis) Big changes are coming to the Memphis airport. There’s a new leader and there will likely be a new look. For the first time, the airport is discussing possibly shutting down one, maybe two, of its terminals. The Memphis airport once proudly displayed the label ‘international;’ now it’s focusing on local travelers. (wreg.com) さらに...

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aflyer
aflyer 2
I have lived here all my life & we can thank the folks in charge for what has happened to the airport. Instead of letting other airlines come to MEM & stay here years ago they were all ran out by Northwest/Delta which Cox could have put a stop to it. Southwest wanted to come here years ago but we were in bed with Northwest/Delta...well look what happens they pull out and we have nothing & no one wants to come here. Everyone was so use to the out of hand ticket prices they travel to LIT, BHM, or BNA to get somewhere at a reasonable price and they will continue. Memphis is DEAD.
mbv9415
mbv9415 2
Welcome to the Pittsburgh problem! At least MEM wasn't suckered into building a new terminal on the promise of keeping all of the traffic. PIT at least appears to be doing a good job of looking for new traffic/routes. While the concourses are nowhere near as busy as they used to be, it is cheaper and easier to fly in to now (I used to fly Cleveland to get home to PIT due to fares. Only one concourse was shut down last year. USAir used the excuse that there was not enough originating/terminating traffic to keep PIT viable, which appeared to be part of the problem for MEM. At least USAir kept a heavy maint base at PIT. Will be interested to see how this plays out after the AA-US merger.
PhotoFinish
I had PIT on the brain during this entire discussion of MEM's de-hubbing and downsizing, with the need to mothball terminals.
PhotoFinish
Airports should be wary of taking on large expensive projects that substantially increase fees to passengers and airlines, when in danger of losing service. The completed project may not prevent the loss of service. However, the increase in fees may accelerate the loss of service.
preacher1
preacher1 1
Brockman will definitely have his hands full. Just like a Harlot when a long term John leaves, the easy ride is over and time to go to work, if all the other Johns haven't left town.
PhotoFinish
Airport operators and regulators would do well to foster non hub-airline business at all major and secondary hubs.

A vibrant mix of airlines is important the entire time of hub status at airport, and continues to be important after the hub carrier has decided to drop the airport as a hub.

It makes sense from an airline's perspective to have fewer larger hubs, with the greatest number of connections available and requiring the least number of connections per itinerary, for passenger convenience.

Airlines are not respinsible to be the economic engine of any city, nor the sole base for their economic development. It is the job of airlines to offer as many flights for which the local market of passengers is willing to pay.

Fostering a vibrant mix of airlines is the airport operator's responsibility. Hopefully the owner/city governance provide the airport with policies that are supportive of a vibrant airport operation. This involves providing the necessary services at the most competitive landing fees.

There's a trade-off. The more cash cities try to extract from their airports, the fewer the flights and the less vibrant the economic development impact of the airport and the fewer choices of direct destinations available for local businesses and other passengers.

Must choose wisely the role of airport in the life if the city. Cash cow or economic engine. Unusual for both to be possible simultaneously, particularly if there is not substantial O&D traffic.

With FedEx's biggest operation, I wouldn't exactly call it dead. But secondary hubs in smaller cities, once lost, tend not to come back. But lots of traffic volume can return with the decreased fares from greater LCC carrier penetration at the airport (just not hub-level traffic).
preacher1
preacher1 1
They really won't have any trouble keeping the runways busy. It's the terminal that will be the problem, and how much O&D traffic is in MEM and surrounding are remains to be seen.
PhotoFinish
Probably not too much local O&D traffic. Which is why becoming a hub again is unlikely.

But they can get a nice mix of LCC flights available as well as policies that bring down landing fees and ticket prices. This way fewer people will make hour long rides or further to othet further airports in order to avoid the higher fares at MEM.

You can't penalize every passenger who considers purchasing a MEM fare or any airline that considers adding a MEM flight for the sunk costs of building a hub for Delta/Northwest that is no longer being used as such.

If you do, they just won't come.
murrayhill3
Jim Murray 2
I connected at the Memphis airport a couple of years ago on a flight to MSP (Delta) and had the best catfish I've ever tasted. If the airport can keep catfish on the menu they will succeed.
sparkie624
sparkie624 1
LOL, they do have good food... Some of the best around.
ccthorp
ccthorp 1
Backyard Burger is pretty good!
sparkie624
sparkie624 2
LOL, I usually have one of those every week... they are good... "Bol-A-Pasta" is excellent as well (Terminal "A")
hamster1436
Awwww goog ol' MEM...

Travelled there so much for business in the late 1990's and early 2000's - really never understood the viability of a hub there for NW, but it always seemed busy. I'll miss the great BBQ options.

I was fortunate to take the FedEx hub tour one night - that was a lot of fun.

Hopefully the end of the Wright Ammendment at DAL will help Southwest rejuvenate MEM in a way that it did at Houston Hobby.

When I travelled, round-trip full Y Fare was about $800 on NW and AA from DFW. Then our company made us switch to Southwest into Little Rock and rent a car the rest of the way... That made a huge diffence because we often had 4-6 people travelling at a time.
drdisque
I don't see what the end of Wright will do to help MEM, other than maybe Southwest adding DAL-MEM, which won't exactly "rejuvenate" MEM. However, Delta flew MEM-DAL in the past and it didn't exactly do so well. The routes that Southwest is adding currently are probably the only ones it could handle long-term, other than maybe a few more routes out west (like LAS and PHX) once they're more established. MEM will never be a hub for anyone other than FedEx in the future. Also, the article is a bit misleading as MEM only has one terminal, so they wouldn't be closing "Terminals", they would be closing concourses.
hamster1436
Yes.... I was thinking DAL-MEM, then also STL-MEM, MDW-MEM..... more options to get people to a fun city at a cheaper cost...and my point on Wright was that just opens up another point towards the east to help people connect.
drdisque
Southwest is already flying MEM-MDW with AirTran metal, their own metal transitions in in November. STL-MEM is only 257 miles, WN has been getting away from such short flights lately. As of Nov 3, Southwest will fly MEM-BWI/MDW/HOU/MCO/TPA the only remaining large stations that WN won't fly to at that point will either be very close to MEM (STL and BNA) or DEN, LAS, and PHX (which I think are the next things they would add).
Moviela
What do all those packages do in three terminals, anyhow?
sparkie624
sparkie624 1
LOL, Fedex has their own terminal.... And it is a lot bigger than the main terminal. A few years ago, MEM handled more cargo than any other airport in the world. I think now they are 3rd behind Anchorage, AK and Japan International (I think)
PhotoFinish
Sometimes you just gotta do, what you just gotta do.

Wonder what the airline announcement might be. We know that RyanAir and others have been eyeing the cross-Atlantic market with intentions to fly into secondary markets. Might as well target airports with ready to use terminals, that would be eager for the business.
sparkie624
sparkie624 1
Southwest has been talking about moving in...
PhotoFinish
Yes, you're prob right.

Southwest will begin service November 3, 2013 to: Baltimore, Chicago–Midway, Houston–Hobby, Orlando, Tampa.

The article wasn't clear and can lead one to believe that SW already served Memphis, and even mentioned a cheap fare available to Baltimore. In fact SW-owned AirTrans does serve Memphis.

Otherwise Memphis would be both a major hole in their network and a big opportunity going forward. Moving sooner would take advantage of the higher average fairs and/or deny such higher fares to Delta on its' way out.

Surprised it would take SW so long, and that they didn't have a bigger presence sooner.

But had the article been referring to another airline announcement (one that doesn't already offer published fares for transport later this year) then the possibility of a foreign LCC would come to mind. Their first destination in North America; that would be news.

An announcement by SW after having SW fares available or months and serving the airport through AirTrans for years, isn't news, it's marketing. Just announcing a change in paint colors of their planes serving Memphis.
acmi
acmi 0
another victim of the "DELTA DEATH"
preacher1
preacher1 1
Between DAL closing their Hub and Pinnacle leaving, MEM will be on hard times. FedEx will keep the Airport going but the terminal is a whole 'nuther story.
PhotoFinish
It'll be just like every other non-hub airport, with lots of flights all day to the various network carriers hubs, and LCC flights to places like FL, Vegas, Caribbean, Mexico, Cali, etc.

Except, they'll have the largest cargo operation in North America for the foreseeable future.. Many distributors will continue the trend of locating near MEM and FedEx. This consolidation creates self reinforcing and self-sustaining critical mass
PhotoFinish
It'llbe just like every other non-hub airport, with lots of flights all day to the various network carriers hubs, and LCC flights to places like FL, Vegas, Caribbean, Mexico, Cali, etc.

Plus they'll have the largest cargo operation in North America for the foreseeable future.. Many distributors will continue the trend of locating near MEM and FedEx. This consolidation crates self re-inforcing
preacher1
preacher1 1
As you say, with 3 primary and 1 crosswind runway, FedEx will utilize those plus existing traffic that they do have. Filling the terminal will be their big problem.
sparkie624
sparkie624 2
During a FEDEX push, it is hard to move an airplane anywhere else... HUGE TRAFFIC.
PhotoFinish
The FedEx pushes are only a certain times, and I'm guessing mostly at off hours. There's certainly a lot of capacity left, probably much more than they'll ever fill again, short of attracting another hub operation.
sparkie624
sparkie624 1
They have pushes 24X7, and you are right, they are at certain times, but if you get unlucky enough to get in the middle of one of those, it is worse than the worst day in ATL.
sparkie624
sparkie624 1
Minor correction, Pinnacle (or Endeavor) will be staying in MEM for the time being, they changed their plans on that. Line Maintenance will stay, but the flights will be dropping a lot.

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