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United Airlines to Deploy 11,000 iPads to Pilots as Electronic Flight Bags

Following Alaska Airlines and Delta Airlines' footsteps, United Airlines will roll out 11,000 iPads as EFBs to all United/Continental pilots. Distribution of iPads began earlier this month, and all pilots will have them by year end. ( さらに...

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matt leo 0
well i guess they are taking advantage of tecnology
Hmm, overpriced tablets powered by overpriced Unix....I'm missing something here.
fred groff 0
read the article which clearly indicates time & cost savings.ual once again on top.
awesome, glad they are doing this I wonder what they will do for the IT support work load, apple?
Nothing they weren't already doing..

the Jeppesen app they'd use is already free, and would just need the subscription to be paid, which UAL already has, since they had Jepp charts to begin with. From there, each pilot would just need to update per AIRAC cycle.
oh okay, well great, go UL!
Can they ANY more!
preacher1 0
Don't down them any until you have used both. It takes some getting used to after years of reliance on paper and there is still a tendency to reach for that chart, but they are nice. Of course, I would hope the FO had one in case mine went
Great less paper
I agree, Wayne, there had damn well better be a backup chart....especially intnl
are they going to use external GPS sensors? tough to keep charged. or disable that function?
10hr battery is fine for most flights, but onboard chargers may be required as well.
preacher1 0
Got one a while back when they first came out. They are very nice but Rick, as you say, I guess I am just to old school but I want that chart there. Off and on the plane it was just something else to carry. Pretty nice though to have it on your knee in the cockpit without having to dig through all the paper. I am like some of these other guys here though, I haven't heard of any backup or any type support function if one crashes; that would be a little worriesome.
Not all pilots are in their 20s so I'm wondering if UAL allows both paper charts AND Ipads? What will serve as a backup if lost and/or stolen?
Jim Quinn 0
They aren't from Microsoft, so they shouldn't crash nearly as often. As long as it's the device and not the aircraft I think it will work quite well. On the other hand, my freshly-updated PC crashes, on average, about five times a day with its 'auto-reboot at any time' feature. Can't seem to get that one turned off! My Mac, however, just keeps on running and running and running.... Wife's iPad2 is the same way..
Several people I know flying corporate jets use EFB. Their companies require two, one primary and one back up. The chance both fail would be very small.
Switching to these in our corporate fleet right now as well. Saves carrying around 50 extra pounds in charts for all 50 states, Canada, Mexico, and the Bahamas, plus frees up alot of extra space on board.
ForeFlight > everything else :)
N5827P 0
I was paying hundreds more per year for paper charts and didn't have full US coverage. I paid for the iPad and Foreflight with the savings and still had half left over. And iPads don't use classic Unix. So much for overpriced. I print PDF files for approach plates as a backup, but have never needed them. I could buy a second iPad as a backup and still save.
UPS is doing this also. It makes sense that there be some back up e.g. a second iPad while it is being assimilated. As far as technology goes with modern aircraft with glass cockpits the pilot is already relying on tons of technology and the Apple product is likely better than the stuff already in the aircraft. They just need to have a good plan to update the iPads.
preacher1 0
I think that update is the thing. If they allow them as a personal type property I belive they'll be OK. Sad part is that in my company, our IT guy usually winds up doing updates and all on our PC's just because the Users consider ther them the company's property and responsibility. Hopefully Pilots will take a little more interest. I agree with John, the technolgy is there, use it. A backup is a necessary thing though.
Does that mean we can use our Ipads too below 10K?
Hope they have them properly stowed for take-off and landing....because we don't want interference with flight systems... that is such HS.
- 13 à 18 kilogrammes en MOINS, de papier, Bravo !!!!!
- 1 iPad, sinon, rien.
dodger4 0
How does UAL arrive at 326,000 gallons of fuel saved?
theres an app for that
dmedlam 0
@dadger4:: UAL probably has it down to a science how much fuel it takes to move every single pound on that aircraft. Reduce the weight of the paper and flight bags, multiply by fuel NOT burned by NOT moving that weight, gives you a rough savings in terms of fuel NOT used to move weight that is no longer on the aircraft.
Hi there, is a good thing to have EFB in form of a tablet, no mather the brand, like say up, save fuel and costs, here in Mexico, Volaris (VOI) is giving iPad to the Pilot and FO, so i think the risk of the 2 fail is very low, but for safety should be a good idea have a spare Ipad
crk112 0
Didn't we just have a big national uproar over pilots using computers in the cockpit? And now we're buying 11,000 computers for pilots to use in the cockpit????
preacher1 0
@CRK112: I believe you are correct, of course these will be official use only and replace the
Hey guys the Ipad and foreflight combination is great if you havent tried it, you need to if you do a lot of IFR flying.
Still tryig to figure out where I am supposed to put it in a 757 cockpit. Current chart mounts/clips won't work.
preacher1 0
Karl: I thought they were supposed to strap around your leg, just above your knee(seriously).
So, maybe it is the obvious, but the backup IPad is the Co-Pilots IPad. So every flight would have two?.... 11,000 Pilots/IPads is that for every member in the Cockpit?
But the iPad, along with all other electronic devices, will have to be turned off below 10,000 feet per the FAR's.
f4phlyer 0
I know there will be no sympathy here but I along with the many others that were forced to lug those 40+ pound flight kits around for our entire careers say Hallelujah. How many slipped disks and other maladies will be avoided.
The i pad for charts are super!!!
f4phlyer 0
They were looking at EFB when I was still working, FAA still mandated that there be a paper Flight Kit on board as ultimate backup. Everyone gets one so should have ample backup.
dbreslin 0
What UAL, Alaska and DAL are getting with the iPad is NOT approved for departures and approaches and must be turned off below 10,000 feet. How useful is that? Ok, it's a start...

American Airlines on the other hand, has full authority to use their iPads in all phases of flight as a result of 4 years hard work with the FAA. They are now working on approval of JeppFD with "ownship" geo-referencing. Probably a harder sell.

Why doesn't AA get credit like the whuffo's at UAL? Because AA's marketing and public relations are as bad as the vision the company shows to the market place. First Officer Hank Putek did all the work at American on behalf of pilots and they are light years ahead of the EFB testing at UAL, good on him. Replacing 40 pounds of charts with 2 pounds of electrons - no comparison.
@Fred Groff. This was a program that was in the works at Continental before the merger was announced. Now that the program is ready to be implemented they are including United. Give credit where credit is due.
f4phlyer 0
Don't know what the exact status of below 10,000 feet is but I'm betting that for this purpose it'll be a Fait accompli. Continental hired a guy to work on this project in 2000. To much of the technology just wasn't there until now, screen resolution, battery life, size, memory, cost, and the list goes on.
f4phlyer 0
Don't know what the exact status of below 10,000 feet is but I'm betting that for this purpose it'll be a Fait accompli. Continental hired a guy to work on this project in 2000. To much of the technology just wasn't there until now, screen resolution, battery life, size, memory, cost, system stability and the list goes on.


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