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Continental Airlines Pilots File Lawsuit Against Union
Six former Continental Airlines pilots who now fly for United Airlines have filed a class-action lawsuit against their own union. The lawsuit claims that the Air Line Pilots Association,used a formula that unduly favored pilots from United Airlines when Continental merged with United in 2010 to form what was then the world’s largest airline. (www.frequentbusinesstraveler.com) さらに...Sort type: [Top] [Newest]
This merger was sold on being a Merger of Equals - the CO side has been getting screwed from day one - CO was a proud and profitable airline with great people - United is killing everything Carmen Calella Maint Inspector MCO
The merger itself kinda halfway made sense. What did not was moving corporate to Chicago and getting surrounded by a bunch of losers. Actually, as good as CO was doing, the merger didn't really make sense, in not having some of these safeguards put in place at first. UAL was a big unwieldy monster that had been on the rocks either with business or labor trouble for a long time. Just as with Douggie Boy at AAG, I guess Jeffery's ego got to him too.
I don't necessarily care for unions, BUT, there ought to be a national registry, whether it is ALPA or not, of some type that will allow a pilot to transfer between Airlines without worrying about seniority. Other professionals do and are hired based on experience, in the pilots case total time. As is, a 12000 Captain can move airlines to say, change or shorten commute. It is foolish to see him go to the bottom of the roster, say under a 1500 hour wonder that has been at that particular carrier for a month or so.
Labor unions.....BARF!
I agree with PhotoFinish. Senority does not make a pilot better. In the company I work for I have better skills after working there for only a year than others who have worked there for 5, 10, or more years. In fact, other employees come to me for assistance even though, based on the seniority logic, I shouldn't know as much.
While I think pilots should be paid a decent wage, I don't think paying someone over $150,000 for less than 100 hours of work a month is right. All that does is make those who have just started out get paid very little.
Additionally, I believe that the airlines should train their pilots ab-initio. In other words, they should pay for the pilots' training from private or commercial on up. Everyone wins. The pilots get their higher ratings and the airlines, by making the pilots sign a contract saying they will stay with the airline for x number of years, gets their investment back.
While I think pilots should be paid a decent wage, I don't think paying someone over $150,000 for less than 100 hours of work a month is right. All that does is make those who have just started out get paid very little.
Additionally, I believe that the airlines should train their pilots ab-initio. In other words, they should pay for the pilots' training from private or commercial on up. Everyone wins. The pilots get their higher ratings and the airlines, by making the pilots sign a contract saying they will stay with the airline for x number of years, gets their investment back.
First, if you lower the top pilot's pay it will only put pressure to lower the bottom pilot's pay. Just because management might have more money does not mean they are willing to hand it out.
Second, you say a large paycheck is not right for someone working les than 100 hours a month. Please remember that is only the flight hours. Due to the geography of my current domicile (Guam) I will typically be on duty 10.5 hours for 8 hours pay. Trust me, this 1.3 duty to flight time ratio is EXTREMELY efficent scheduling. Your typical domestic pilot will have a ration closer to 2 to 1. In other words, a domestic pilot might be on duty 200 hours to earn the 100 flight hours of pay. A 9 to 5 employee averages 173 work hours a month.
Second, you say a large paycheck is not right for someone working les than 100 hours a month. Please remember that is only the flight hours. Due to the geography of my current domicile (Guam) I will typically be on duty 10.5 hours for 8 hours pay. Trust me, this 1.3 duty to flight time ratio is EXTREMELY efficent scheduling. Your typical domestic pilot will have a ration closer to 2 to 1. In other words, a domestic pilot might be on duty 200 hours to earn the 100 flight hours of pay. A 9 to 5 employee averages 173 work hours a month.
You're not including the (probably tax free) per diem in your example.
Because this article is about United, here's the salaries and other pay: (increases are coming this year)
Guaranteed hours: 70 (73 for pilots on reserve). this is paid whether the pilot works 10 hours or 70.
International override: $6.50 captain/$4.50 FO
Per diem: $2.15 domestic/$2.60 international (this is as much as $51.60/$62.40 a day)
Salaries range for $66/hour for FO on any aircraft (1st year) to $255/hour for 777 captain. Even at the low rate and based domestic 1680 hours a year flying plus duty time this comes to $33/hour
Because this article is about United, here's the salaries and other pay: (increases are coming this year)
Guaranteed hours: 70 (73 for pilots on reserve). this is paid whether the pilot works 10 hours or 70.
International override: $6.50 captain/$4.50 FO
Per diem: $2.15 domestic/$2.60 international (this is as much as $51.60/$62.40 a day)
Salaries range for $66/hour for FO on any aircraft (1st year) to $255/hour for 777 captain. Even at the low rate and based domestic 1680 hours a year flying plus duty time this comes to $33/hour