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Flight 8501 had rapid climb speeds
Indonesia AirAsia flight 8501 went missing more than three weeks ago, and the mystery is now being uncovered — with the help of the black boxes. (jansaviation.com) さらに...
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STALL Recovery!! When. Was the last time a airline crew recovered from a full stall? Even in a simulator!
It may have stalled due to that climb rate but I doubt the pilots put it there, yet it appears they will try and hang it on pilot error before it's over with. Until further notice, I call BS!
"the aircraft was climbing, even after air traffic control denied their request."
Bothers me the way that the article characterizes this as disobedient pilots; even if it doesn't directly say that, it certainly implies it. If a good PIC is disobeying an instruction in a critical situation, it probably is because he has run out of good options.
fwiw, 6000 ft/min is 68mph, which is within what a thunderstorm can produce as an updraft (upto 100mph). (http://www.erh.noaa.gov/box/updraft.html) Perhaps those speeds don't translate well at altitude, idk.
If a pilot is fighting thunderstorms and the guys on the ground aren't helping, I hope my PIC will do what needs to be done. Perhaps the pilot can take some of the blame for the routing, but the ATC didn't help the situation and certainly may have further hurt the situation.
Bothers me the way that the article characterizes this as disobedient pilots; even if it doesn't directly say that, it certainly implies it. If a good PIC is disobeying an instruction in a critical situation, it probably is because he has run out of good options.
fwiw, 6000 ft/min is 68mph, which is within what a thunderstorm can produce as an updraft (upto 100mph). (http://www.erh.noaa.gov/box/updraft.html) Perhaps those speeds don't translate well at altitude, idk.
If a pilot is fighting thunderstorms and the guys on the ground aren't helping, I hope my PIC will do what needs to be done. Perhaps the pilot can take some of the blame for the routing, but the ATC didn't help the situation and certainly may have further hurt the situation.
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Well, as about 2 minutes elapsed and the left radar, I'm thinking bad updraft. I don't think he would have arbitrarily went up after being denied climb by ATC. I guess we'll see.
also if this is radar data and not from the air data sensors from the FDR we have to remember that radar can be notoriously inaccurate
This is primarily the FDR. They are not saying much about the CVR other than the pilot was "awfully busy".
cnn reported that it was based on radar return data
CBS said it was off the box so idk
