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White House Calls Potential Loss Of Aviation Jobs A 'Difficult Choice'

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The President's press secretary said Wednesday that the potential loss of middle-class manufacturing jobs in places like Wichita where bizjets are built is a "difficult choice" that has to be made to preserve jobs for teachers or the national defense. (www.aero-news.net) さらに...

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RRKen
It's a shame that some people have to resort to foul language in order to communicate with others. I kind of expect it in some places, but I hardly thought this was such a venue.

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Pileits
Pileits 3
Go SPAM somewhere else
RRKen
That's pretty crass. And when we loose the market to foreign builders of craft, explain to me the long term of that kind of decision? For example, I am willing to bet that the payroll of all those workers across the country would be a lot more than any perceived tax breaks owners of aircraft get.

What's next? Eliminating business use of autos as a deduction (business miles)? Or eliminating overnight stay as a business deduction? Those fat-cats also deserve to loose those bloated deductions. (I understand most people who use hotels/motels in the course of making a living are middle class) Where will it end?

Again, here is a person, the leader of a major country of the world, who is completely out of touch with the normal lives of those he governs.

Well what is good for the goose, should be good for the gander. Eliminate AF 1 and Michelle's air taxi. See how they like flying commercial!
bentwing60
bentwing60 2
If the current administration's policies will admittedly come at the cost of yet more GA industry job losses, doesn't that say something about the policies?
WALLACE24
WALLACE24 7
There is no painless way to cut spending. They need to start with the federal govt jobs to set the tone for the states. Their is nowhere that is bloated more than the Feds. I won't even start on entitlements!
jshhmr
josh homer -3
We need revenue in addition to cuts. Both parties are at fault for getting us in this mess. I wish we could get a strong third party to end this plutocratic nightmare.
erictuff
Eric Tuff 3
Why exactly do we need more revenue? Give me a reason for a revenue need and I will show you ten areas for a cut that would happen in the normal world without batting an eye. The concept of living within your means is foreign, isn't it? No more revenue increases just decrease the bloating and run it like a business which is what it is.
jshhmr
josh homer -2
Your response just shows how ignorant you are when it comes to the economy. I will be downvoted mercilesly for truth. FACTS are that repubs are the ones that have destoyed our economy. Back in the summer of 2011, repubs REFUSED to create revenue, as a result our credit rating was lowered. Repubs only care about fucking over the poor and midddle class for their own ungodly agenda. Here is Business 101. When people have more money to spend, the more the economy thrives. You idiots want austerity, which Europe has proved doesn't work. They are fucked. I have $100 that says you don"t even know what that means. Here is economics 101. The more money the average citizen has to spend, the more money goes into the economy. You fucking morons FAIL basic econommics. Downvote me all you want, but as long as you fucking idiots get your "facts" from Nazi style propaganda, the more wrong you are. We've tried loweing taxes on the rich back in 1982 with Reagan. Here we are today and YOUR policies failed us. We have RECORD corperate profits, yet record low unemployment. Again, I have facts, you morons have propaganda. Joseph Goerbels would be proud of you. YOU are why this country is shit.
erictuff
Eric Tuff 2
I'll take your hundred bucks and report it as gambling income, at that time we will have the revenue increase you so desire. Then after that is spent you can make foolish bets with others, who prefer a professional discourse as opposed to your maniacal rantings and thus an increase in revenue. You have solved the puzzle!
WALLACE24
WALLACE24 2
Where do you propose the average citizen get more money to spend?
I haven't seen anyone on here say they want austerity. They just want the gov to spend only what they take in, cut the waste, and not raise tax rates. We had a little war over taxes once. I do not have a problem with changing some tax code that favors a specific entity (special interest). We already have a graduated tax system that takes more from people who earn more.
You want more jobs and more money for the government? Then put an import tax on products coming into this country that are in excess of what that importing country spends with us ( trade deficit). That would drive many of those jobs back here.
If your idea is "giving" average citizen more money to spend that was taken from another citizen, that is socialism.
WALLACE24
WALLACE24 4
Only additional revenue they should have is through a better economy. They are proven poor stewards of taxpayer money. Spending CUTS, CUTS, and more CUTS. No tax rate hikes. IRS tax code overhaul a necessity. Feel the pain! It's the morning after the spending party hangover.
jshhmr
josh homer -1
So here you are talking about cuts. What cuts? Do you means shit tons of military cuts, like the F-35 program, which is several billion dollars? Also, how many BILLIONS do we spend on having foreign bases, when we have NO business there? How many CEO's abuse the loopholes that were created by the politicians that were bought BY said corperations? I was hoping that Flight Aware was made up of people that didn't watch the Fox Propaganda Network, but seeing the comepletely dumb rhetoric from you morons shows me otherwise. Fucking educate yourslves, instead of believing the propaganda you're fed.
WALLACE24
WALLACE24 0
So how do you balance your check book? Ask for a raise? Borrow the money? File bankruptcy and start spending again?
I paid 42%federal and state taxes. That is enough. I don't care if they close a military base or let some lazy shit that won't work starve. Just quit spending money we don't have. The goverent caused the problem they need to fix it. Those that work for the government and don't do crap better start getting a grip cause the gravy train will end.
Average America will be fine, maybe just a few less cars and tv's,but them getting something for nothing better be finding a new tit.
jshhmr
josh homer -1
First of all, you are lying about a 42% tax rate. Show me a copy of your returns (minus personal info) that proves that claim. There is nobody on the planet, maybe except a Norwegian that pays that much. That is a fact. How do I balance my checkbook? I live within my means of course! Reagan was the one that started defecit spending and deregulation due to his wall street masters. Even though Fox "news" spoon feeds people bullshit, Reagan RAISED taxes, regulated guns, gave illegals amnesty, you know, what progressive open-minded people want today, yet people ignorant of facts have been fooled to believing otherwise. As far as some lazy shit starving, Clinton enacted the law that gave a person limited welfare. I agree with that, however while I know for a fact we are right about the lazy shits that do exist, there are many more that literally cannot find work. My Godly side says that protecting the less fortunate (at least those that try) is true and just, like what Jesus teaches. We should quit spending what we don't have, but you need to understand that Bush didn't put 2 wars on the books to trick people. Obama put them on the books, which we're trying to figure out how to pay for. Austerity is what Europe has tried, which is what Republicans want. It has failed, as we can see. Europe should be used as an example, since they were the ones that tried it first, and failed. Why should we do the same? It makes no sense! Why cut off our nose to spite our face?
WALLACE24
WALLACE24 1
I paid 35% federal and 6% ky state tax so don't try and and give me BS about nobody paying that.
You can can say austerity doesn't work but I say you can't spend more than you have forever. If you want to cure the governments mismanagement with more taxes its time for a new government.
WALLACE24
WALLACE24 1
Forgot to mention a county and city payroll tax of 1% +.

jshhmr
josh homer -1
How do you pay even 36%? Rich people pay an average of 16%! I'm guessing you are middle class, so why defend the rich when you are getting hosed? Makes no sense. And yes I CAN say austerity doesn't work, BECAUSE IT HASN'T! FACT!
WALLACE24
WALLACE24 1
People whose income is wages or in my case profit from a business pay 35% federal if the income is above a certain threshold. Most rich people make most of their money thru capital gains which carries a tax rate about half that of income tax.
I am not defending rich people, I am saying it will do no good to take more from anybody and give it to the government. Only grows them bigger so they need more and more money and gain more and more power. Why do you think they they have pension plans and healthcare plans nobody else has. The crooks are the politicians not necessarily the rich.
And there is no such thing as loopholes. Only tax code that was put in place by WHO, the politicians. They can change the code anytime they wish but guess why they haven't?
bishops90
Agreed. History proves that tax revenues remain in a fairly narrow range of GDP (as a percentage) regardless of tax policy progressivist, so the key to higher revenues is economic growth. So why the push for higher and higher tax RATES? Politics. Sheer politics. Pit one group against another, politicians win, we all lose.
jshhmr
josh homer 0
"History Proves....." What history? If you mean REAL history then you'd see that American prosperity after The Great Depression was greated due to taxing the rich (the people that CAUSED the depression) as much as 90 fucking percent!! It created the infastructure as we know it today, as well as the MOST prosperous times of America's history!! Right now, we are asking that BILLIONAIRES pay a measly 39%, where as people like you and me pay MORE! How the FUCK do you defend the rich when YOU pay MORE than they do? We need REVENUE in ADDITION to cuts, like wasteful military spending. Cutting programs that actually HELP people (austerity) is what Europe has done, and as a uniquivical fact, FUCKED SHIT UP! You people are so far up FOX's ass you don't know what reality is.
WALLACE24
WALLACE24 3
And the cuts scheduled in 7 days are so minuscule they are a joke but they are spreading fear about about the cutting of services and that national security is at stake. What a bunch of liars.
jshhmr
josh homer -2
"And the cuts are so miniscule...." Are you fucking retarded? I mean seriously! Yes, it means we have less funding for aviation, which is the WHOLE FUCKING POINT OF FLIGHT AWARE!!! ESPECIALLY when the sequester was a republican ideal, only to use it against POTUS when today came. Ungodly people like you are why this country is shit. You protect the rich (against Christ's teachings) while admonishing the poor. Did Christ protect the rich? Nope, so you fucktards that downvoted me while thinking you represent Christ (protecting that in which Christ HATED) need to re-read the Bible. You can respond all you want, but you're still wrong, and evil.
WALLACE24
WALLACE24 1
Don't think Christ hated anybody. Don't think he cares if you are rich or poor as defined by money. Don't think he cares if you watch Fox.

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