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Deadly Private-Plane Crashes Prompt U.S. Call for Basics

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“GA pilots are not learning from the deadly mistakes made by their brethren.” (www.businessweek.com) さらに...

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preacher1
preacher1 4
The comment in the last part of the article about "IF EVERYONE FLEW TO THE TEST STANDARDS, WE'D HAVE A PRETTY GOOD SYSTEM" is true. Problem is, everyone will take their test and pass it to get their license and then they are bulletproof. Just as a young automobile driver that just got their license, they may know just enough to get in the air and to land one. Back in the day, DRIVER ED was a required subject in our high school and in most. Then they started doing away with it for various reasons and lookie what we have on the highways now. The car is just a means to get from Point A to Point B, not giving a thought that problems may happen between the two, let alone how to handle them. So is GA, look Ma, I'm flying. Problem is, if it gets bad in a car, you can stop and step outside. If you're at 5000'and a problem develops, it's not quite as forgiving.
conmanflyer
while it may have been a required subject back in the day, back in the day people didn't have cell phones and texting
preacher1
preacher1 1
Well, you are definitely correct on that, but lack of that training takes the importance off the act of driving itself, just as in a GA guy/gal freshly licensed and thinking that's all they were to it. Some of these small town kids would be totally lost if they wound up in downtown ATL. Same for the low hour GA; what do they do if they wander into the pattern at KATL and meet a 757 coming out of the clouds. Hypothetical, yes, but impossible no!
conmanflyer
we're taught to avoid ATL, no VFR right? :p
krahmerica
krahmerica 2
When I earned my PPL in 1980 my instructor told me, "Now you have a license to learn how to fly." He was right!
conmanflyer
and just when i thought i would be able to pass my checkride... :/
conmanflyer
which of course got cancelled yesterday morning and re scheduled
pmd603
Phil Day 1
Preacher, I just have one problem with your statement. Most accidents are not occurring as a result of things going bad at 5000ft. And its not just young pilots getting in accidents, its adults that should understand the responsibility of having a pilot license.
preacher1
preacher1 2
Phil: I really couldn't agree with you more,but kinda goes back to the fact that they just got lucky from childhood, not having had an accident or close call, and never grew up to understand responsibilty, whether it be flying or anything else for that matter. We basically have 2 generations out there now that just either don't know or were never taught. In the late 60's it was open rebellion and their kids were never taught, and now they have grown kids as well, that cannot really know if they haven't been taught.Monkey see, Monkey do.
THRUSTT
THRUSTT 1
Yeah, it's that monkey see and hear and monkey do. You hear a lot from private and corp. to airline pilots that can't even talk on the radio. Some repeat everything verbatim, some read back unnecessary things while not reading back stuff like hold short instructions.
Less is more, the controller doesn't need to be wished a good morning and Merry Christmas from every pilot tying up the freq..
I fly with guys that still can't give a position report in the correct format, every day is day one for a lot of people.
You could blame it on the training, but it's up to the trainee to make sure they're learning and doing things the right way.
Also, when the hell did the prefix "And" come into play before every transmission???
Every flight I have issues with pilots flipping switches on the runway before clearing and not using the non-flying pilot.
You see all these clips on Youtube that are getting excellent thumbs ups from pilots, when in actuality they're doing a shitty job, chatting in critical phases, the flying pilot not using the non-flying pilot.
Monkeys COULD do the job better, youtube monkeys as waiters in Japan, and you'll see.
Now, if only some Regionals would recruit monkeys as Pilots and Flight Attendants................
n111ma
n111ma 1
Been a licensed pilot for 35 years and I totally agree with the "license to learn" statement mentioned earlier. Like any other job or hobby, flying can be safe and rewarding...IF you obey the FAA's regs and mother nature's rules.
I tell my friends and family that the most dangerous part of flying in a GA aircraft is still the car ride to the airport!
eagle5719
eagle5719 1
Just a few safety suggestions:

1. Make sure the airplane you plan to fly is well maintained - don't be afraid to check it over yourself. Be thorough in pre-flight checks.
2. Don't try to stretch the fuel - plan more re-fill stops.
3. Even for IFR flights - be a fanatic weather checker, especially regarding wind, lightning and freezing levels. For VFR flights, wait for perfect weather.
4. Don't use the airplane like a toy, i.e., low level and/or aerobatic over-stressing maneuvers.
5. For IFR or VFR, research the route terrain including the destination airport area and know the minimum safe altitude.
6. Know all details about the destination airport. The same for all airports along the way in case of a need for an emergency landing or for fuel.
7. Don't fly if tired, angry, sick, or in the middle of family hassles, especially if they are passengers.
8. When VFR, use flight following and know all the ATC and weather frequencies along the route.
jshark00
My driver ed instructor didn't know jack about driving. My flight instructor knew a lot about flying.

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