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Thanks, Taxpayers, for My Subsidized Ticket on an Airplane Gutted to Meet Stupid Regulations

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Thank you, taxpayers, for subsidizing our jaunt as part of the often (and justly) criticized Essential Air Service program. And the flight was conducted on a BE-1900 that had had ten seats ripped out. (reason.com) さらに...

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TorstenHoff
On the bright side, they decided to keep the seats over the CG...
WithnailANDi
My favorite part about all this is the continued use of the word "RIP"... the airline didn't have maintenance personnel loosen the bolts with wrenches and take the seats out of the aircraft. Oh no, nothing so mundane and ordinary as that! Those seats were RIPPED out!

They had some WWF gorillas come in and RIP the seats out, shearing the bolts and shredding the upholstery in the process. Now, the passengers who board the plane to sit in the remaining seats have to step around gaping holes in the floorboards where the other seats were RIPPED out. There are jagged cavities in the wall panels (probably with live wires dangerously exposed) where the armrests used to be, before they were RIPPED out.

It's all so violent, and seamy, and out of control! RIPPING seats out! AAAAAAAAAGGGGGGHHHHHH!
cheshire
Yeah the verbiage is a little over the top. Reminds me of the old DAK Catalog... It's a War! And Your Home Is The Battleground!

I'm a little troubled by the article, though. The Essential Air Service stuff, I think it's clear has been a boondoggle and a big waste of money. The 9-passenger 1900 thing, I mean, I want the pilots to be safe of course, and I'm not familiar with the intricacies of the changes in the new rules, so I don't know if they're helpful or not. I can see how having less experienced pilots fly with fewer passengers puts fewer people at risk, but flying the same aircraft with fewer seats than it is made for seems perverse. And it didn't look like the pax got one inch of extra legroom.
preacher1
The pax probably didn't get any additional legroom.

As far as the hours thing, it just means they are gonna have to get total hours somewhere else rather than with a 121 carrier. Personal opinion, they won't be a bit more experienced, at least in AC type, when they come to work for a 121 carrier than they would have been if they had come to the airline with fewer total hours. If they manage 1500 hours and an ATP in a 182 and have never seen the inside of a big iron cockpit, I can't see where that is going to help much.
MikeMohle
Ridiculous government regs at work wasting your tax dollars.
btweston
btweston 2
This is more of a party line anti-government diatribe than anything else. I mean, what's the point?

The Essential Air Service program is so horrible, but I rode it anyway. I could have used my Randian superskillz to go to the big airport, but I settled on the taxpayer subsidized regional airline which wouldn't exist if the program didn't exist, which would in turn limit my choices. It's so terrible, and they stopped expanding it after 2010. Isn't that awful?

...What?

This guy gets paid to write about how bad the government is. Right. I'm familiar with Reason.com. But what point is being made here? I learned nothing by reading this article, except that the author is a libertarian. He wants it both ways, it seems, and in the end he doesn't convince me of much at all. No one forced him to rattle around in this damned thing, this plane with seats ripped (!) out of it. Did he do it just so that he could complain to his fellow ideologues on their club website?

And, if we can be grown ups for a second, $2,094,235 is nothing in terms of the federal budget. One smart bomb costs more than that, and all it does is blow up.
cheshire
Well it's always a good deal when you get to spend other peoples' money to not "limit your choices", isn't it.

And as to the smallness of two million dollars vis a vis the entire budget, it's not some isolated deal, it's like saying the Air Force isn't that big, they only spend $100,000 a year on berets; EAS, according to wikipedia, is about $220 million/year excluding Alaska.
preacher1
That is the problem with the whole budget and their thinking. "Aw, it not that much, only a million or 2". Well, millions make billions. They are gonna need to knock off a whole bunch of the small stuff in order to make a BIG savings of any kind, and that will have to include foreign aid to those that hate us and burn our flag and falsely imprison our people. My rant for the day.
pirahna432
Nobody has figured out how to operate the 1900 outside of EAS? Really? I'll remember that when I strap into one tomorrow morning in one of my company's seven 1900's. And there's a commuter airline across the field with a sizable fleet of their own. It's a fantastic aircraft. Very efficient within its niche.
randomguy
100 miles on the interstate between prescott and phoenix... not too far to flagstaff either. At least for Prescott, seems like they should fly them there instead and give them a connection.
preacher1
Well, I won't discuss the merits of EAS as I think most folks feel the same about it but he don't need to bad mouth KPRC that bad. I was in there several times last year in our CRJ, and believe me, there are a WHOLE bunch that are much worse.

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RRKen
Oh give me a break. If for example, I have to get to a family function in Chicago, I have few choices right now.

Charter an aircraft locally at $1500 in each direction; take a stinking filthy bus, and put up with the Neanderthals aboard for $357; or hire a cab for the 9 hour drive at $422 each way.

I have done all of the above as I cannot drive long distances.

Now think about the options those in larger cities. In addition to the above, they have air service. Subsidized by all tax payers, despite not being part of EAS.

That includes you private operators, who have all the infrastructure paid by taxpayers as it is. Imagine if you had to pay the whole cost of the airport facilities on your own dime? (meaning there is no more FAA or DOT) Your taxes and fees come nowhere close to covering full costs. That's like a truck driver (and their lobbyists) telling us their fees proportionally cover the cost of all the roads and highways in the U.S. Keep dreaming!

Bottom line, isolating areas of the country would leave them in ruin. And without EAS, that would become the case. After all, who would invest in an area that has no modern transport? Would you?
preacher1
I will not argue the case on GA and infrastructure at this time nor the merits, or lack thereof on the EAS, but the trucks come a lot closer and cars too for that matter paying their way. If the Feds didn't raid the Highway Trust Fund for Mass transit projects and then claim vehicles are tearing up the highway it might go somewhere. The 4 years I had the truckline, I had to sign them checks, and they weren't little ones and that was just license, road use, and permits, and we were a small carrier. That did not include that 25% or so of state and local taxes every time they filled up with fuel, and then there was that high end excise tax on all new equipment purchases.
MikeMohle
Mike Mohle -1
This sounds like "you didn't build that".....spouted by your President. You forget who initially paid for the infrastructure (taxpayers, me included).

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preacher1
Mr. Hartmann: your comment is spot on, old boy, especially that last paragraph.

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